We had a chat with an experienced professional in Conservation and Urban Design, Barry Sellers, exploring a myriad of topics. From the challenges of shifting conservation priorities to the potential of AI in streamlining planning processes, we cover it all. Discover insights on education in architecture and urban design, collaborative approaches to iconic projects like Battersea Power Station, and the future of design coding in shaping our cities.
Barry currently works as a Principal Planner in the urban design and conservation section at Wandsworth Borough Council. Since graduating in town planning and architecture he has worked in the public sector in Farnborough, Southampton and London. He gained a Diploma in Urban Design from Oxford Brookes University in 1984 and later completed an MA in Urban Design there.
**Q: How long have you been working in Planning, and what are your main roles within it?**
A: I've dedicated my career to Planning since 1976, initially starting at Rushmoor, Southampton, Lewisham and Wandsworth from 1988 and then working as part of a shared service with Richmond in 2016.. Over the years, my roles have evolved to encompass various aspects of planning, primarily in conservation and urban design but including policy development, development management consultations, and community engagement. Being a part of this shared service has been an interesting experience engaging with two sets of politicians, two local plans and two different committee cycle set up which each have their own priorities.
**Q: What challenges do you face in terms of conservation priorities and staffing? **
A: One of the main challenges I encounter is the shifting landscape of conservation and urban design priorities within the context of limited resources. Despite the importance of conservation and urban design, it often takes a back seat and there is a prioritisation of other service areas. From about 2010 onwards, we began losing quite a few posts in planning , partly because of the financial crisis, but conservation and urban design is an area which was targeted. The recent survey (Historic England survey) indicates a 35% reduction between 2006 and 2018. This can result in delays in crucial tasks such as conservation area appraisals, which are essential for giving residents and developers up to date guidance on preserving our heritage.
**Q: What educational background do you have in urban design and architecture? **
A: My educational journey in planning, urban design and architecture has been multifaceted. I pursued a four-year town planning degree at South Bank University, followed by a diploma in urban design from Oxford Brookes. I then completed a three-year architecture course in Greenwich, which provided me with a solid foundation in architectural principles. I further honed my skills by obtaining a master's degree in urban design from Oxford Brookes, allowing me to integrate planning and design perspectives.
**Q: Can you explain the distinctions between Conservation and Urban Design? **
A: Conservation and Urban Design are two intertwined yet distinct disciplines within the realm of planning. Conservation focuses on the preservation and enhancement of historic buildings and environments, often requiring specialised knowledge and accreditation, such as IHBC accreditation for conservation officers. On the other hand, Urban Design encompasses a broader spectrum of design principles aimed at shaping the built environment in a holistic and sustainable manner to create great places. Recognised Practitioners in Urban Design like myself are still small in number. While conservation officers prioritise the protection of heritage assets, urban designers work towards creating cohesive and aesthetically pleasing urban spaces and places.
**Q: What is design coding, and how does it impact planning processes?**
A: Design coding is not new, but the NPPF now advises local authorities to prepare design codes consistent with the National Model Design Code. It can play a pivotal role in shaping development projects by establishing clear parameters and guidelines. These codes, which encompass aspects such as height, scale, massing and materials, as well as road layout and public spaces are essential for ensuring consistency and quality in urban development. Design coding is a process which needs to engage with the public at the beginning in shaping a vision for places. Public engagement is integral to the design coding process, as it ensures community buy-in and reflects diverse perspectives. By providing a framework for decision-making, design coding streamlines the planning process and fosters the preparation of transparent and accountable development parameters that can be used by developers, consultants, politicians and the public.
**Q: What advice do you offer to young planners interested in conservation and urban design?**
A: For aspiring planners interested in conservation and urban design, I encourage seeking diverse experiences and mentorship opportunities early in their careers. Flexibility is key, as gaining exposure to different planning areas allows for a well-rounded skill set. Engaging with mentors within the local authority provides invaluable guidance and support, although remote work post-COVID has presented challenges in this regard. Embracing continuous learning and adapting to technological advancements, such as AI, will also be crucial in navigating the evolving landscape of planning.
**Q: How has COVID-19 affected urban design and planning processes?**
A: The COVID-19 pandemic has significantly impacted urban design and planning processes, shifting much of our interactions and meetings online. While virtual platforms offer certain benefits such as increased accessibility and efficiency, they also present challenges in terms of maintaining meaningful engagement and collaboration. Face-to-face interactions are essential for nuanced discussions and networking opportunities, which are integral to effective planning outcomes. Finding a balance between virtual and in-person interactions will be crucial in adapting to the new normal post-pandemic.
**Q: I understand you worked on the Battersea Power Station Project, Battersea Power Station has been one of the most talked about commercial and residential sites in London in last decade. Including movie sets, sporting events and Album Covers. What made this project one of the most unique monuments in London?
A: My involvement in the Battersea Power Station project spanned a decade, during which I witnessed the transformation of this iconic landmark and grade II* listed building. One of the most notable aspects of the project was the collaborative approach adopted by stakeholders, including Historic England, local authority, architects, structural engineers, planning consultants, and the developers and their team. Regular meetings facilitated open communication and problem-solving, allowing us to address challenges collectively. Sourcing original materials for authenticity and sustainability posed significant challenges, but it ultimately contributed to the project's integrity and success. For example: they found the original company which made the original bricks to source the bricks, which gave quality and authenticity of the whole project. However, another challenge was to decide on when to use new materials in certain areas to make it more sustainable whilst retaining the building’s architectural and historic significance and integrity as retention of as much historic fabric was important The transformation of the building for retail, entertainment, leisure as well as residential use gives the public access to the two Turbine Halls and Boiler House as well as the control rooms to be able to interpret its history.
**Q: What future challenges and opportunities do you foresee in conservation and urban design?**
A: Looking ahead, I anticipate both challenges and opportunities in the realms of conservation and urban design. Embracing technological advancements, such as AI, has the potential to streamline planning processes and increase efficiency. For example, if people asking the question , is it permitted development, then that should be a straightforward concept for an AI process to be used and be able to draft a report for officers to sign off. Major applications and other areas are much more complex than that. Collaborative efforts and innovative solutions will be essential in navigating the complex challenges of urban development in the years to come. Local authorities need to engage with people at the early stages of the development process to prepare a vision about place-making and they need to feel part of that process.
If you are interested in getting into conservation, please get in touch with us at 0204 524 5220. Alternatively, if you wish to look into a career in conservation please look at the following organisations:
- English Heritage - https://www.english-heritage.org.uk/
- Historic England - https://historicengland.org.uk/
- IHBC (Institute of Historic Building Conservation) - https://ihbc.org.uk/
- RTPI (Royal Town Planning Institute) - https://www.rtpi.org.uk/become-a-planner/about-planning/
